Edited at Dec. 04 2018.
I was on idea to clean up this whole thread, but that can wait. I will now put latest "news" on top. The reason is longer post of exxos :
https://www.exxoshost.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1406#p15073Dec. 16 :
Quote from my message to one Atari fellow:
"Considering exxos's very private forum - yes it is it - all for selling his stuff. You probably know that I'm not there anymore. Of course, my goodbye post, where I explained the reasons is deleted, and exxos will say that he is banned me. As it is always with bad admins.
I was SW moderator there - he just asked me to join, because needed someone experienced in programming for that pos. About 13 Months ago. But truth is that I was not happy with that forum. SW section was not much active. Actually, most of it there is about HW, some really low level knowledge HW stuff - like fixing PCB design errors. Exxos started game section about half year ago, and I think that it was done poorly. Look just section rules text. SW section was half past dead when I left, game section was dead (I started last 2 threads there - Whitewater Madness and New Atari ... - I did put there only link to atariage thread . Before it, last thread was started in July !
Believe me, even myself surprised seeing now how long it was dead. And for sure, exxos did not like that my link to atariage. But that was when I barely posted in exxos forum, lost complete motivation and interest - and most important, I realized what is purpose of that forum. Instead PM-ing me, some talk, he just deleted 4 my constructive posts in TOS version related thread (and I'm who deals with TOS most of all Atari people in last years). Long story, I said him how unfair all it was, and that I'm out, unless he sincerely apologizes.
This is how I do things: going in details, giving long explanation if needed, not rushing - all it needs time, like adapting games.
I just can not watch passively how exxos using people to make his sales better, to feed his ego. "
And I must say: exxos is not my enemy. He is enemy of democracy, of fairness, of constructive thinking, of giving credit to people who made hard work and invented something new. Because he is just not on level of doing self even some
PCB design without 6 revisions until it will be error-free (I have here his 15 boards, all with such errors - surely I did not waste time with that, I do much more advanced things).
Dec 06, early hours:
And I just realized something extremely painful. really. While looked my WEB page about my TOS improving. There is version called 1.43 - TOS 1.04 for accelerators with 68020/30 CPU. May be with (1) too and other changes. For ST, Mega ST . And that is what I published at Exxos forum, and he was happy to see it. And some 4-5 months later, he just deleted my posts in TF530 thread, where I talked that modded TOS 1.04 could be used too with his accelerator. Yes, this sounds so surreal, but it happened (I have no proof, did not record it, really did not expect such treatment after my hard work) . Conclusion: exxos is extremely shallow, ungrateful, forgets things, no wonder he asking help in trivial problems. Just go lower, to embolden text, and will see his "life philosophy" ...Dec 06 forenoon (my local time)
Just has been attacked by my old 'friend' C.J. he posted more in 2 hours than in whole year at atariage ST section. I seen strange thing after he edited his post - no trace of it, as is usual when for instance I edit - then there is at bottom sign of it with time of editing. Does he have some special status there ? Possible. In any case, if I will be banned there soon (in couple days) you know the answer.
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Dec. 04 :
Now, imagine how fair is to expose his version in front of whole Planet (that's Internet) so, that other side is prevented to reply, to expose his version of what happened (what would be me, of course).
So, I will use Internet to fill that 'gap' - smiley should go here, but no mood for . People always should judge after listening both sides.
And, he will have his forum members to stay on his side (what a shock), I will do all alone.
"I never had a problem with him until more recently. I had been talking to him for years in private about many projects. Guy seemed fine to me, never personally had any issues with him. I wanted to keep developers together and clearly he was being outcast and frankly being antagonised by other people which wasn't helping. While he has done a lot of work, to much bad blood with people over the years and I wanted people to have a fresh start here. "
Yes, problems with him started some months after I joined forum, as SW moderator. Developers together ? There were no many SW developers at exxos forum. Actually, I see only myself as seriously doing that. Some serious ones jumped in with couple messages like guy who leads EmuTOS project, Blank Vector .
I was disappointed by exxos's really low level of knowledge - he posted some really trivial problems:
https://www.exxoshost.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=979And not only in SW, but in HW too. Then, all those cat videos, diverse fun things in chat section and like. Now the Xmas theme ... No, this looks more like some warehouse where owners try to attract people with diverse 'candy' .
"Unfortunately things have started to degrade over the past few months ( I think he has life/home related issues) to the point where he seems to be having a mental break down or something. Hes making really bad choices with moderation, and abusing members in PM, including myself, talking to him is a waste of time now. If people want to be a idiot or not follow simple rules, then they get banned. We was more than fair with him but patience runs out eventually. Being a contributor may well buy someone a little more freedom than other people, but it does not give anyone a free pass to being a ass! So the the sake of my sanity and others, I just had to ultimately ban him.
"
Yeah, forum degraded, exxos degraded, I sent him some very polite PMs about life, retro computing which were totally ignored. Sent him PM in which said that was not good idea to talk about low sales during summer, because it may be understood as his main concern are the sales. He even did not read it carefully, and got offended - that would be "abusing in PM" . So, I was actually offended, because ignoring my PMs, not even replying that no time, don't understand ... Yeah, I wrote couple PMs to troed and said him clearly that is asshole. There are threads where it is well visible. Will not waste time and space to even put link here. Let's stay at his greatness, exxos
And later part of quoted is just twisting the facts. If you want me to follow the rules, then I expect that others follow them, and admin self in firs place. Troed was extremely unpolite in many cases, but that was OK for exxos. Exxos deleted my posts, then attacked me (not complained) how I dare to delete post of moderator - I said: you deleted my 4 moderator posts. And that was when I said him that I will not stay on forum unless hi sincerely apologizes. And this 'sincerely' is very important. That means that he needs to realize his mistakes, unfairness, shallowness ... If nothing changes in his mind, attitude no sense to stay there. I just refuse to be threaten as some problematic person, because I'm not. I worked with people over 20 years, on field, was in thousands of homes, and in 98% cases all it was fine in conversation, with money (they paid my work right after was finished) and so on.
That about ban is ridiculous - I clearly said that I'm out in now deleted post, but I recorded it:
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{Post } by {Petari} » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:16 pm
My last post here. Which will be deleted most likely.
Leaving this forum because exxos acted unfairly. And btw. this was really not much interesting for me in last months.
SW section is semi dead, game section dead. I'm not interested to read or discuss about PCBs, power supplies and other. "
I copied here as page save looks with simple editor, so can see some additional data .
Exxos just thinks that all we are sheeps and he is the master of cattle. No I'm not cattle, and never will be. He banned me because was pissed off with my huge disrespect for him, what I clearly expressed. That ban, later ban on IP address (now removed - why ?) are so lame. And "just had to ultimately ban him." - twisting of facts. He wants to present it as I wanted to continue there, to bicker and like.
I clearly said in public that I'm out, and why.
"He has caused me a great deal of stress this weekend and made me very angry, and I quit AF (and other groups) to get away from all this type of crap, so I am just not tolerating it here. We gave him a good chance, which I do not regret, the thing I really regret is we have lost a contributor to the community. But he ( and indeed some others) never learn that sometimes the best solution to a problem is to shut the hell up! Hence violating one of our moderator rules in keeping peace, hence his demotion. "
More twisting. And he went so low that reported me to AF team (who he despises) - after my PM before 'war' started, where I said in confidence some things - just as some revenge because my disrespect. Now disrespect is at least 2x bigger.
Truth is that all I wanted was to place there advert for selling Falcon 030 . I even did not put it on exxos forum - could do it week ago or sooner, but forum is visited by narrow circle of people. Although, AF shows signs of abandoness pretty much. Even ijor went to exxos (or he had conflict with AF team too ?) .
"shut the hell up!" - yeah, that 'solves' everything
Putting problem under carpet solves nothing, only hides it for some time, and after it it will be just worse, and you will need to solve all accumulated ones. And that's just happened there ... My recent move has nothing with it.
Actually, I had first problem with him some 3-4 years ago, when he without any consultation with me designed and ordered about 20 PCBs for my design: ACSI-CF adapter. That's actually my design for which most people was interested in purpose of manufacturing. I made driver SW, tested it well - look page about on my site:
http://atari.8bitchip.info/astams.phpOf course, interest was because it can be manufactured for little money - few, cheap components.
But his PCB design was failure, and he sent me some 10 of it + some components that I make it working. I explained him why PCB design is bad - main problem is that it causes signal distortion because lines are too close each to other, many crossings and like (longer story). He was pretty much deaf, and even called in public my design bad. Even it several people made it with success. Whole thing went under carpet. What made me not happy, but life goes on, and instead investing my time in it I turned to other things.
"For peter its always whos right or wrong, I honestly don't care about such things. We should help each other out, and if issues get solved, then all is good. There's no need to argue whose solution is better or got the job done faster. The journey counts for something as well! "
OMG ! Is it a joke ? He just wants to journey in some happy group of people (where he would be boss, of course
) . Does not matter is someone paid for it, or not - all we are same and happy ... Just pathetic ! And I finish for now. So, he clearly admits that don't care who is right, who is wrong. That may be explanation why so many stupid posts from him appeared.
In other words, he refuses to credit people who solved problems - because only those who are right can do it - ah I need to bold previous sentence
P.S. and something I just realized:
it is disregarding of people's work, effort. Because results, being right come not (only) because someone is smarter, has higher start knowledge, but because time, effort, sometimes money invested in it. But no, exxos doesn't care, and want to threat all it same ... I saw that shit many times in my not short life ... Ungrateful opportunist, who cares only for money, some benefits, and own fame. Now it is so clear, and his low knowledge has explanation. I can't resist: exxos, if you want journey, go to Hell
Oh, that was so rude and offending
Let him whine and find another reason to attack, demolish me. Humor is what keeps me sane last 2 weeks, after some people close to me took 3000-3000 Euros from me and my brother.
Added at 4. Dec. 2018, 6.00 PM: And what a shock ! Exxos deleted all posts except first, and locked thread where announced new SW moderator, and from which I quoted above (that was about 4-th post in that thread). Well, it seems that him, or someone close to him follows this. Or just because there were some replies he don't like. Yeah, Internet can be good thing, if you know how to use it To be continued ...
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So, exxos suddenly accepted new member, gave him complete new section called "terriblefire accelerators". Was couple weeks ago.
TF is Amiga guy, with low Atari knowledge. Wants to expand his business toward Atari ST family.
I'm not interested for accelerators, so did not read his posts and related. Only in one case when was talk about what TOS version is needed for TF530. I posted there some question about support for TOS 2.06 in ST machines, since TF said that 68020/30 accel. can work only with TOS 2.06 . What is not entirely true. So, I wrote correction - and I guess that he did not like it. And little later we could read one of biggest stupidity written ever in some computer forum: TF said than thinks that TOS using self modifying code
Yeah, sure, self modifying ROM
I pointed on it, in polite manner. But all my posts there (about 4) were soon deleted, despite all I wanted to help him, and I'm TOS and ST HW expert. And were very much topic.
Little later exxos said that he suggested deleting 'posts which made confusion there' . I would rather say that they did not like that I know it better, and for sure realized how stupid was that self modifying TOS, so best to remove all traces (deleted TF's post too, of course).
But the real problem started after I deleted TF's pretty much off-topic post in SW section, where I was moderator. He immediately wrote to exxos, claiming that I did it in spite. I admit that it was partially because I wanted to test exxos how will react on it. And he reacted heavily, ignoring totally my PM, what I posted little earlier. Among other crap he said that is not nice and common to delete post of moderator. I replied that I just followed example of forum admin (exxos) who recently deleted some 4 posts of moderator (me). He threaten that will remove me from moderator status, and I said that then I'm out of that forum totally. Forum became more and more uninteresting for me. SW, game sections pretty much inactive, practically dead. Actually, there are some 15-20 people there who make most traffic, mostly some HW activity, like assembling ST remake, with zillion posts about progress in it.
So, I posted my last farewell post there, and really don't want(ed) go back there. Mostly because unfair threatment.
I wrote then last PM to exxos, where I talked about his low level of knowledge - yes, imagine how I felt reading his really shallow Mega STE review, where he talked about minimal speed gain in compare to 8 MHz ST(E) machines (like 5%), while it is actually about 60-70% in average. And some other things, examples. That pissed him, and banned me (after lame and incomplete removing of moderator status).
Yes, another case of big ego, shallowness, using forum for sale increase (he even opened once thread about lower sales in Summer period) .
Despite he coded partially benchmark SW (GB6.x) he made amateurish mistake in tests - like testing speed of diverse CPUs while blitter was on. That's just wrong way to compare CPU speeds, since blitter does most job in such cases. I pointed on it, and did not see that was happy or thankful. I guess that still did not correct his SW and tables of result.
This is how it goes - all for fame, vanity, very little for accuracy. Ignored complete my corrections when talked about how PC floppy is slow. No, it's not slower that ST's floppy - and speed does not depend from computer speed but drive's mechanic. He just could not fix it - it's better to talk stupid blah how Atari is better than PC (in year 2018) . Now I really stop with this, even if could list more sad examples ...
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