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"Bad" games list
« on: 02-03-2011, 10:54:02 »
     List of "bad" Atari ST games

 This should include all bad, incomplete cracks. Games with bugs. Games not running
 with more RAM in machine than 512K-1MB.
 Not games and cracks, menu disks   which fail on higher TOS versions - there is too many
 of such.

1. Helter Skelter 1990 - cracked by Law.  Game restarts after each dying, so only 1 life in fact.
  Certainly as result of incomplete crack.

2. Forgotten Worlds - BBC crack and some others likely. About third level it crashes as result of
 insufficient level data loaded.

3. Carrier Command - Automation crk. Only first protection removed. Second, which activates after some 100 minutes of play not.

4. Baal - STCS crk. , present in many releases as M.C.A. etc. (bad crack infos there) .  Missing 6 files.

5. B.A.T. II - French version, called Elite crack (again bad info) present on Vectronix - corrupted 4 files.
Crashes on Creation, stucks while playing.

6. Millennium 2.2 - 'Hard disk' version in GameBase ST. It is not bad crack in fact, but not real hard disk fix - as works good only in Steem with GEMDOS emul. 'hard disk' , not with real hard disks.

7. Crazy Cars 2 - not possible to finish. When completed everything, driving through finish does nothing.

8. Leaderboard Golf - incomplete cracks around .

9. Dungeon Master - some cracks are incomplete, and after some time all heroes die - game over.

10. OIDS - incomplete crack, Pugsy. Can't shoot enemies.

11. Ultima III - in GameBase ST :  can't enter shops. Not cracked, not played, not checked. Not corrected after report.


Some buggy games listed here:   http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15398


Please add here if you encountered some buggy game or bad, incomplete crack . It will help people in future to avoid such versions and maybe to update some lists, image bases.



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Re: "Bad" games list
« Reply #1 on: 02-03-2011, 14:02:25 »
Outzone in Fuzion CD 060 crashes toward the end of the game (can't remember when exactly)

I faced a lot of bad crack, in any way, most of them crash during the latest levels

I keep myself some "buggy versions" actually since I know how to deal not to provoke the bug, but these versions are not recommended anyway - I can remember a few of them:

- Blood Money (Supergau) : screen is corrupted (only in one place though) - that's not very nasty and the game can be completed
- Barbarian 2 - Palace (Automation) : this version is fine, however, some monsters are not in the place they are supposed to be (the 'dino' who eat your head is at the beginning, while in the pasti version, you meet him a bit further..)
- Dragon breed (Bad Brew Crew) : crashes just before the final boss
- Interphase (Pompey Pirate) : going at some place in the highest level may result a crash.
- Mortville Manor (french - can't remember the crew) - same bug as Barbarian 2 but this time regarding objects - best is to play with the pasti version
- Navy Seals (can't remember the crew either - sorry) : crashed in the latest levels..
- Rick Dangerous 2 (Analogue Bubble Bath): crashes before accessing the secret level
- Robocop 3 (pompey pirates) : crashes during a sequence - i won't give any details (here also, you can deal with it if you know how, though)
- Saint Dragon (crew ?) - game can be completed, however the ending sequence is corrupted
- Sherman M4 (no cracktro) : a nasty bug in the "Africa Campaign" - one of the tank is at a wrong point, which result he's indestructible (him too  ;D) - doesn't happen every time though
- Targhan (Replicants) : unplayable mess - commands don't respond anymore  very often (so that you have to boot again)
- Uninvited (Delta Force) : a part of the text of the final sscene is unreadable - nothing nasty though

tested with TOS 1.06, 1mb ram
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Re: "Bad" games list
« Reply #2 on: 07-06-2011, 20:13:43 »
Police Quest 2 cracked by MCA :  crashes when you drive to the jail..

I'm off to play with Petari's adaptation (should have first play with this one i guess  ::))

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Re: "Bad" games list
« Reply #3 on: 25-07-2011, 10:46:07 »
Sleeping Gods Lie:   in Gamebase ST (unknown cracker) -  executable corrupted.
   D-Bug cr. :  language selection works not, game starts not - tested with TOS 1.04 .

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Re: "Bad" games list
« Reply #4 on: 25-10-2011, 10:41:31 »
Dragon Spirit - Replicants crack .  It is rather bad game version than bad crack - no skill level selection at start. After loosing all lives game starts again without user selection.
There is release (official ?) of Dragon Spirit together with Xybots on one floppy seemingly, but there is no space for other game except Dragon Spirit on 1 floppy ... I'm in process of doing this for HD - but must play game to see what happens .

P.S. :  I can't find correct version of this game. Not some top quality one, but shame, as I did almost everything with adapting for HD.
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Re: "Bad" games list
« Reply #5 on: 05-11-2011, 14:46:59 »
King's Quest 3 - version available in GameBase ST, marked as 'unknown cracker'. Recognisable by too short ZIP - only ˇ300 KB. Should be about 410KB. The problem is that 1 data file is missing - content of org. floppy #3.

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Re: "Bad" games list
« Reply #6 on: 07-11-2011, 21:09:15 »
No time for playing - test for the time.. but i checking the new added games adaption thanks for your work!
My system: Atari STE 4MB, OS: SuperTOS 2.06, HD: US/disk 4gb SDcard ,ppera v0.98 HD drivers, USB mouse adapter by me, PSX controller joy adapter by me,  full list of adaption,s games by Petari.
Second Atari machine: 1040 STF
Other: 2X Lilliput Atari 130 XE

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Re: "Bad" games list
« Reply #7 on: 15-11-2011, 17:47:59 »
Son-Shu-Shi  :  only available  is  crk. by Terminator Kid.  It is not complete, and works well only on TOS 1.62 (built in ROM !). Game will stuck at end of level 1 (tunnel).  Unfortunately it stays for my hard disk adapt. too, what is based on that crk. as only src. I examined code and found solution,  updated it, and it is DL-able now. I will test it until end in following days. but someone other may too - game is really good  :)

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Re: "Bad" games list
« Reply #8 on: 23-01-2012, 10:38:38 »
Bad Pasti images:  Kid Gloves (don't know where DL-ed it) - corrupted data on some levels.

First Samurai  - Pasti images in Gamebase ST - levels 9 and 10 have corrupted data.  And the reason is 99.99% not floppy in bad shape or bad imaging of Pasti tool, since there are no CRC errors indicated, + it is played until end - visible by saved scores.  So, like many times, image got corrupted during storage, copying .  Too bad that people behind Gamebase ST abandoned it - we could make it much more reliable source, if they just listened more to bug reports, instead starting now pretty much dead Guardians of Past .

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Re: "Bad" games list
« Reply #9 on: 08-02-2012, 16:38:10 »
Maupiti Island - English version : only available images, all likely based on Zippy crack have some corrupted files. Is crack bad, or images went corrupted, not relevant .
However, I completed game (solved the crime) with adapt based on it. But actually, visited max some 40% of game's locations. It was by some walkthrough.

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Re: "Bad" games list
« Reply #10 on: 19-06-2012, 10:51:30 »
Not really bad, but 2 available cracks missing title soundtrack (on side B of floppy on original) - game self is OK.

  Fire!  by New Deal Productions  .

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Re: "Bad" games list
« Reply #11 on: 28-06-2012, 14:11:08 »
Fire! is now complete, with intro soundtrack. Thanx to  OBO  for making Pasti of org. !

http://atari.8bitchip.info/SCRSH/fire.html

Floppy version, STX :  http://atari.8bitchip.info/ASTGA/F/fire.php


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Re: "Bad" games list
« Reply #12 on: 18-07-2012, 11:13:26 »
Iron Lord

I spent some time with it. What write is based on originals - have STX images of 3 floppy French release, and 1 floppy Action 16 English release. I read about some bad cracks, but let's focus on originals, because there are some serious problems:

Action16 (En) release has corrupted file FILE09, which loads after winning Battle (after declaring war). Then game will just crash. So it  is just not tested enough.  If replacing it with correct one, you can play maze part, but finishing game is not possible - most likely, and most likely because of bug.
Later stays for French (3 flo.) version too.
I write it after looking into code, checking for some additional protections and similar. Nothing from it .  After walking over whole level 6, all sections. There is no stair down at all.
If someone managed to finish game somehow - I would like to hear how it was ...

And game works only on older TOS versions because of lame joystick code.
3 floppy French release could fit on 2 floppies. Really pitty.

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Re: "Bad" games list
« Reply #13 on: 25-07-2012, 14:13:07 »
Metal Master - Replicants crack - it crashes in later game stage, likely because copy protection check activates only then.
My adapt is based on it, so I need to fix. Have 2 pastis, in one not visible protection data, in another is - typical French protection on track 79 with some 70 sector IDs .  So, must play it to reach activation ....

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Re: "Bad" games list
« Reply #14 on: 25-07-2012, 21:08:57 »
Fire! is now complete, with intro soundtrack. Thanx to  OBO  for making Pasti of org. !

http://atari.8bitchip.info/SCRSH/fire.html

Floppy version, STX :  http://atari.8bitchip.info/ASTGA/F/fire.php

You're welcome Petari  ;D
For once one of my crappy original is useful... I have a handful of shitty ST games :)